User talk:EPICALLL

Regarding OVERLOAD
Hi. We appreciate your enthusiasm and contributions, but I am sorry to say that OVERLOAD currently does not meet any kind of notability threshold. Generally on the wiki it is also understood that it's in poor form to create pages about one's own projects, as it falls under self promotion, something we highly discourage in the case of article creation, though it is of course fine to add specific information to already existing articles as nobody knows a PWAD better than the author of said PWAD. When it comes to this case, though, the lack of notability and excess of self-promotion would preclude at the very least creation of individual map pages. --Dynamo128 (talk) 04:50, 10 October 2023 (CDT)


 * Linking the map list of a multi-level PWAD one map at a time is inefficient, and should be done using maplinkgen (or ml) to avoid problems like this. Creating individual pages manually gets in the way of the semi-automated ways we use to create the whole batch in a complete and consistent way. Now MAP01 has a lot of problems that would need to be cleaned up manually, if it's kept. But as noted by Gregor and Dynamo, covering one's own works on the wiki easily strays into self-promotion territory. Redlinking all releases on your user page certainly pointed in that direction, which is why I reverted that. In the past, self-promotion even led to the deletion of some articles.
 * Notability is a notoriously tough concept and I'm not saying Overload is less notable than every other PWAD covered on the wiki. But at best, and if others (like Dynamo) are saying that maybe it shouldn't get map pages, then that is something to take into account. Hundreds of thousands of PWADs with millions of maps (my wild guess) were created since Doom's release. The wiki and its editors don't have the resources, time, or energy to cover them all, so we have to make sensible choices. If anyone has objective, neutral arguments why Overload should get map pages, I'd still be willing to fire up the usual scripts, but otherwise it's probably better to just delete the MAP01 page and images. --Xymph (talk) 07:05, 10 October 2023 (CDT)